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Good idea.
Classic and pulsar.

virtual_master wrote:Good idea.
Classic and pulsar.

Thx virtual_master! Do you know maybe a good license to release all the work at the end ? Or does anybody knows a good license for releasing ?

We can make Logo Drafts for http://namecoinia.org/ as well after finishing the main drafts.

Probably releasing to the public domain so one may do with as they wish, with no attribution or other restrictions.

pitbull wrote:Probably releasing to the public domain so one may do with as they wish, with no attribution or other restrictions.

Agreed. Though "releasing to the public domain" has indistinct legal meanings, and makes it harder to do anything with something.

Artwork associated with a GNU-licensed program should probably be released under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 unported license.
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

That license grants specific rights very similar to the artwork equivalent of the GNU software license. I'd encourage using that license, rather than using no license, as using no license has no concrete legal definition. If you use no license, it screws up people's ability to do what they need to with something.

Doing anything BUT using a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 unported license would be complicated considering the Namecoin wallet, and all software that currently interfaces with it, is GNU licensed. It would be ludicrous to have any kind of copyright restrictions on artwork included in a GNU-licensed program, and would possibly invalidate the GNU license.

I also believe that this detail about the license if FAR more important for the future of Namecoin than what design everyone ultimately settles on.

I'm not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, but that's the license I use on everything I release. Consult the attorney of your choice if you have questions about your use of the license.

I actually like the current logos, and don't think changing them is a high priority. I think a better wallet his the highest priority. A better wallet (one that opens in less than ten minutes) will do far more to spread adoption of Namecoin than a fancier logo.

I'd also recommend AGAINST using any kind of ultra-realistic medallion-like depictions. I think depicting crypto-coins as actual coins confuses the general public. One result of that was the TSA detaining Davi Barker because they "saw Bitcoins in his luggage."

MWD

Just to nitpick a bit - I googled the licensing (I'm not familliar with them) and it seems there is a "Creative Commons: Public domain" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/. CC3.0 requires attribution. This is the same license bitcoin's logo uses, although I don't see many websites correctly attributing the source.

Edit: Nevermind, I missed the large banner that reads "Creative Commons has retired this legal tool and does not recommend that it be applied to works." Perhaps this is the new licence -> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

Not sure what is best, anyone else have an opinion on this?

pitbull wrote:Just to nitpick a bit - I googled the licensing (I'm not familliar with them) and it seems there is a "Creative Commons: Public domain" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/. CC3.0 requires attribution. This is the same license bitcoin's logo uses, although I don't see many websites correctly attributing the source.

Edit: Nevermind, I missed the large banner that reads "Creative Commons has retired this legal tool and does not recommend that it be applied to works." Perhaps this is the new licence -> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

Not sure what is best, anyone else have an opinion on this?

I wouldn't worry about the lack of attribution, becuase the logo says what it is, so it is, in its own way, its own attribution.

My opinion is that public domain is not as good of a choice as CC Attribution license, because Public Domain relinquishes ALL rights, CC Attribution reserves some, for instance the legal right to demand someone not use it in a misleading manner. That's useful in case someone makes Namecoin-brand spy software or something. (That would also get into trademark issues, but having some protections on the image could help with getting someone to stop that.)

CC IS copyright, with less restrictions. Public Domain is no copyright, i.e. "I release thee to the wind."

When you all are ready to decide and release a new one, let me know, I'll ask a friend who is an intellectual property attorney, and he's also a friend of Namecoin. (He donated to the FreeSpeechMe campaign.)

Ya'll should also ask me to ask him when you're ready to release the new wallet. It's under the GNU 2 license, it may not be the best idea to automatically just update to the latest, GNU 3. The 3 license has more restrictions, especially on what kind of hardware things can run on, and that could actually discourage adoption. But we should ask the lawyer. But I don't want to bug him until there's an actual need. I have limited favors with him, and I don't want to ask him to do free work until its needed.

MWD

phelix wrote:it reads "amecoin" for me.

For me, too.
We already have the successful "B bitcoin" logo and not "itcoin".

Concerning the N button, what's wrong with the button design as seen on the FB frontpage?
(identical to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... n_Coin.png , I think)

cassini wrote: Concerning the N button, what's wrong with the button design as seen on the FB frontpage?
(identical to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... n_Coin.png , I think)

Nothing.

cassini wrote:Concerning the N button, what's wrong with the button design as seen on the FB frontpage?
(identical to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... n_Coin.png , I think)

thats my favorite too.

edit: wanted to add that i also like the "pulsar" version

First of all thank you for letting me know about this voting.
As I see Classic and Pulsar are among the leaders.

However we at Cryptonit looked through all of then and think that LATINUM would be the best one
- grey color forms an association with precious metal (silver or platinum) and thus with coins
- relief edging makes an accent on the N symbol (it is missed in classic and pulsar and looks a little bit simple)

As a secondary PULSAR is preferred. (that N font is really good and suitable for marketing IMHO)

As soon as we have the leader i would be glad to write about new Namecoin design in our news section.
keep the good work!